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Time to Revise Relativity: Part Deux Options
jim
Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:49:06 PM

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Finally finished my two part blog on post-FTL-neutrino relativity. Hope it makes sense. It was very hard to put into words.

Would appreciate honest feedback!

Time to Revise Relativity: Part 2
RogerV
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:17:17 AM
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Sorry, Jim, for the laggard response to your article. You're always good in commenting on the postings of the rest of us on the forum - and always with an interesting and/or helpful observation. So you set a great example. On to my meager comment:

We live in a quantum universe where all aspects of it are discreet in nature (that we've been able to observe so far). Yet Einstein's maths are continuous maths. We can't deny the fundamental quantum aspects of reality so this must imply that Einstein's formulas describe emergent properties, and with all attempts of applying continuous maths to that which is discreet, it will do so imperfectly.

The big questions that arise with Einstein's maths is what happens when/where they produce infinities? Black holes are one case - matter continuously accelerating as the speed of light is approached is another, as presumably mass will infinitely increase.

I for one don't think a discreet universe will honor the infinities of continuous maths by allowing for so-called infinite conditions to arise.

So, Jim, you pose the very intriguing possibility of asking is this infinity condition a threshold barrier between two regimes - the latter becoming essentially unobservable to the first. The so-called infinity condition is then merely an observational artifact limit on the first regime.

Therefore does matter that's continuously accelerated simply go faster than light while the first frame observer sees it frozen in space/time? So far in particle accelerators we see increasing mass as particles are accelerated to near the speed of light. It may be that we have to approach Planck's unit granularity on resolving space/time before the forever frozen condition of perceiving increasing mass would arise.

The other possibility is we fling the particles out of the accelerator and measure transit time from A to B. Only neutrinos are capable of traveling through dense mass with low collision rate such that they can travel far enough distance for our current resolving technology to make useful measurements. Interestingly enough, two cases of FTL for said neutrinos have been experimentally alleged.

jim
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05:42 PM

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Thanks so much for the thoughtful feedback, RogerV!

You are right on the money - I love the perspective about continuous maths vs QM (ever think of putting together a blog post on that?). I've been coming at that contradiction from the standpoint of using our discrete world as supporting evidence for a programmed reality whereby infinities can't exist because of resource constraints. But now, I'm wondering if it might be possible to rigorously recreate Relativity Theory in a discrete sense; using, for example, the Nyquist-Shannon Sampling Theorum, where the sampling rate is the clock cycle of the "cosmic computer." The idea is daunting to say the least. :)

Regarding neutrinos, one of the things that I haven't seen people talking about is the "fact" (using that word loosely) that neutrinos supposedly have finite mass (otherwise their oscillatory effect would be impossible). So, how can they even hit c, let alone FTL, without a significant rethinking of relativity?
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