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Neo
Posted: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:58:28 PM
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jim
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nice find, Neo. some random thoughts...

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Damer notes that present-day computer simulations run much more slowly than chemical reactions, but he anticipates that in the next 20 to 40 years, with the help of millions of microprocessors, an entire cell could be simulated in cyberspace


That's it! A lousy cell in 40 years? Bostrom and I think we can simulate the universe in 20. Didn't these guys ever hear of Moore's Law?

I like the concept, though, of playing around with initial conditions and seeing how easy it might be for life to form.

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Even if the EvoGrid managed to generate some virtual but convincing life forms, either through random or directed means, "the numbers will always be numbers," says Damer. "As Baricelli wrote over fifty years ago, they will never be living organisms."


Really? How do we describe the strings that make up the atoms, elements, and general matter, that comprise our bodies and our world? Ultimately, once the true building blocks or reality are found, they will either be purely described by numbers, or will just be pure numbers. I bet on the latter, of course.


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That's it! A lousy cell in 40 years? Bostrom and I think we can simulate the universe in 20. Didn't these guys ever hear of Moore's Law?



Perhaps this will become the reality simulator inside of our simulated reality that we have all been talking about -- perhaps not.

Isn't the real question whether or not the programmed parameters of the simulation which we live in will allow it to happen?

When the "players" inside the simulation create their own simulation whose "players" inside that simulation create more players -- is that not the virtual-virtual? And isn't that non-virtual? Its locality created within the non-local. So do not expect logic or numbers to exist (although they might).

40 years may not be too long. For those "entities" in the Evogrid, time is relative to the grid universe. But who knows what our simulation programmers will put into our program which will increase or impead the development of the evogrid.

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Neo
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 5:57:06 PM
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jim wrote:

Ultimately, once the true building blocks or reality are found, they will either be purely described by numbers, or will just be pure numbers. I bet on the latter, of course.


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jim
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:34:42 PM

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jdlaw wrote:
But who knows what our simulation programmers will put into our program which will increase or impead the development of the evogrid.


Absolutely! Care to speculate on whether they will enhance, impede, or have no effect? And how will they do it?
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