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Is Anyone Following the Ray Kurzweil / PZ Myers Debate? Options
jim
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:56:26 PM

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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:09:40 PM
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I have been watching this.
I'm leaning toward Ray. But my question is: does it matter?
Why is the brain looked at as the epitome of information processing? Couldn't there be more effective ways or models?
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Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:56:19 PM

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Boy, I got a laugh from the 1st paragraph, because it is exactly how I've perceived Kurzweil for a number of years. I agree with Myers.
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Posted: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:09:16 PM
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Short snippet of the relavant talk (not the best quality).

There is no spoon.
JF
Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:01:25 AM

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Sebastian Seung provides an excellent presentation of the complexity.
http://www.ted.com/talks/sebastian_seung.html
http://www.ted.com/speakers/sebastian_seung.html
This is why PZ Myers isn't as optimistic as R Kurzweil. Ray seems to think that there is a way of compression, but can DNA & RNA really be truncated? If consciousness exists before its linked into a physical body, then perhaps consciousness could fill in the gaps. However, PZM sees so much detail amid the complexity of physical organic structure. It is essential that more experts in their various fields can share & compare notes. Consciousness & reality isn't just connected to what we perceive as physical reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_theory_of_mind
http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_language_and_thought.html
Jerry, http://ruccs.rutgers.edu/faculty/Fodor/cv.html
Specialists are great, but an interdisciplinary approach is also important.
jim
Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:41:14 PM

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thanks, JF, for that link to the TED talk. interesting.
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