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LadyBe
Posted: Sunday, April 8, 2012 8:32:25 PM
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First I wonder if most of you are watching doomsday preppers and related programs about preparing for doomsday? It seems that there are so many things predicted for this year and it's the sum total of all of that that makes me a bit nervous. They talk about bad solar flares that will wipe out the power grid....the Mayan prediction, the Indian tribe predictions, Nastrodamus mentions. I recall seeing sometime back a show with the then governor of California, Jessie Ventura, investigating a new and huge airport and one of the things they specifically mentioned was some kind of monument that was dedicated to "The New World Order"-which I later learned is product of the Bilderbergers which is made up of people in politics, high ranking military, people in the financial world. I don't know any other way to say that I feel this group of people are preparing for a major change in our government. According to Ventura there is an underground city (a city, not merely underground buildings)that is being built fast and furiously for the rich,
powerful and elite when doomsday rolls around. So many people seem to be taking all of this very seriously and I am most concerned.Anxious
jim
Posted: Monday, April 9, 2012 2:54:27 PM

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It's a great question and perfectly understandable that you would have these concerns, LadyBe. I'll give you my spin on this and see what others think...

I don't believe there is anything magical about 2012, nor that the Mayan prophecy necessarily targets 2012. I have heard many different accounts of what it means and what date it refers to - from archaeologists to new agers - there really isn't a very consistent story. Various religions and cultures have predicted the end of the world many times, and of course, it never happens. Check out http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm for a breakdown of apocalyptic predictions over the past few thousand years.

Civilization-ending or species-ending astronomical events occur in the frequency of tens or hundreds of millions of years, so not much to worry about there. Even if we knew we were going to get hit, what's the point of worrying about it? Just make the last days count, right?

I would agree that solar storms and the resulting damage that can result are a more significant concern. It seems like we have serious ones every hundred years or so. The one that knocked out telegraph stations in 1859 (Carrington Event) would be pretty disastrous today, because we rely so heavily on electricity for everything. If you feel that the local, state, or federal governments or the power companies aren't doing enough to prepare for these kinds of things, you might want to write your congressman or get involved at some level.

Many talk radio shows (by the way, Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, not California) and specifically some of the guests can really scare people. It might be that they really believe what they are saying or it might be that they are being overly dramatic to get higher ratings. Unfortunately it's hard to separate out the truth from the drama without doing a lot of research. Which is probably the best way to put your mind at ease.

I don't mean the following to be at all "preachy" and I hope it doesn't come off that way. But I believe that worrying is a form of wasted energy. I think that the Reiki ideals are a great example to practice:

Just for today, I will let go of anger.
Just for today, I will let go of worry.
Just for today, I will give thanks for my many blessings.
Just for today, I will do my work honestly.
Just for today, I will be kind to my neighbor and every living thing.


Note that it focuses on the immediate ("just for today"). Dreaming about the past might be fun, but doesn't usually result in anything useful. The same can be said for dreaming about the future. (As an aside, ENVISIONING the future is different and there is a lot of interesting research that supports the value of this practice - see "neuroplasticity" as it relates to visualization.) Certainly worrying about the future seems wasteful. One might argue that worrying drives protective behavior, which could be useful; e.g. stocking up on water and dehydrated foods. However, I would counter that the optimal protective behavior would be driven more by knowledge.

For example, I live in a big city. Worst place to be if an asteroid hits, a terrorist gets frisky, or a massive solar flare knocks out the power grid. But what am I going to do? Sacrifice my chosen lifestyle and career and be miserable living off the grid somewhere in Montana just because there is a tiny chance of a catastrophe? No thanks, I'd rather enjoy my lifestyle and career every day and roll with the punches when the solar flare hits. For some people, they may enjoy the "off the grid" lifestyle, in which case they should probably follow their instincts.

In my line of work (agile software development), we talk about the value of practicing "sense and respond" rather than "predict and plan." "Sense and respond" almost always works out better because the future is unknown and changes are guaranteed to happen that would invalidate even the best of plans. So, in effect, much of planning is even waste, unless you are planning for the best way to do the things that you are at least 99% certain that you are going to do. In addition to software development, I think this can apply to much of life as well. Eventually you get good at living in a "sense and respond" mode and stop worrying about the future.

That is not to say that some career planning, financial planning, and a little common sense planning doesn't make sense. If you feel better having a months worth of provisions in the basement, that's like buying insurance - it gives you peace of mind. Which has value.

On the topic of the Bilderbergers, Illuminati, financial elite, globalists, whatever you want to call them - those people and that agenda seems to be true, alive, and progressing. Our constitution is definitely being eroded, our standard of living is decreasing, and our basic rights are disappearing. Depending on your point of view and your beliefs, this may be worth taking a stand against. There are many options - voting, protesting, donating, writing, blogging, educating, etc.

I hope at least some of this helps, and again, I apologize if it sounded preachy. I think everybody is different and has to find their own way through all of this. What works for me might not work for others, but I thought I would at least share a little bit of my point of view.

Cuz that's what this forum is for! :)



terrorgoat
Posted: Monday, April 9, 2012 6:28:43 PM

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That is an awesome response to that issue Jim.

I work with a guy who's all about solar power. I was joking with him one day and I asked him "Where's your bug-out bag, young man. " And he had this really serious look like I knew a big secret. So then I says to him (I'm kind of a jerk by the way,) "Hey, what happens when whatever catastrophe hits and everyone loses their power, and belongings and there's only one house on the street who still has their lights on?...Where do you think everyone's going to go?" He started laughing.

And LadyBe, that whole NWO, Illuminati, Bilderberg crap is such a tremendous waste of energy. I am a conspiracy theorist and I spent a lot of time looking up that stuff, and I found there wasn't a whole lot anyone could do about it, except for starting another secret organization to stop them, but then you're going to be doing the same thing that they are. I was looking at the "Occupy Wall Street" movement and I couldn't help thinking, "Ok, if you guys take down the people who are in power now...who's going to be in power?" Same old stuff (I'm not sure if we can swear here. I'll see what Jim has to say.)

I mean, this isn't a new story. As much crap as the Freemasons get, if you look at what they've done, (American Revolution, French Revolution) they're responsible for some pretty awesome world changing events and they are constantly attacked as being the "controllers." Not to mention they are serious about sacred geometry. I do see that they take care of their own and that means if you're not with them, you're against them.

The best place to end your conspiracy theory search is when you start looking into religion. Now, you're talking serious control. (Man, I am preachy.) Alright, I'll stop here...Just wanted to give my two cents.

"The only true wisdom exists in knowing that you know nothing."
- The Mighty Socrates (Not the fake Socrates Plato wrote about in "The Republic.")
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