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socratus
Posted: Sunday, October 5, 2014 2:14:40 AM

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Newton, Leibniz, Kant . . . were deists.
Is "Deism" dead ?
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socratus
Posted: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:01:39 AM

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The tendency to understand Deism in the modern physics.
a)
Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?
https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/content/does-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god
b)
Does Quantum Physics Prove God's Existence?
http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyths/f/QuantumGod.htm
c)
Does quantum theory prove God exists?
http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions/1339-does-quantum-theory-prove-god-exists/
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" If He understands Maths and Physics then He exists."
/ Mathematical physicist and cosmologist Frank Tipler /
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler
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Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:17:11 AM
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I'm all for the ‘Omega Point’ but according to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin’s definition, here. This is more or less in line with my own hypothesis about the Holographic nature of Consciousness. I don’t fully comprehend Tipler’s definition of the ‘Omega Point’ so I can’t really draw any conclusions about it for now. He has his fair share of critics, though, including the physicist Laurence Krauss. Krauss had a nerve to make that scathing comment about Tipler’s book when his own book “A Universe from Nothing: Why there is Something rather than Nothing” is replete with weak arguments. Pot calling kettle black, for sure. Mr Krauss conflates nothing with something and is guilty of the fallacy of equivocation. He treats the word nothing as if it were something. The quantum Void is NOT nothing. I do not like physicists/scientists with an atheistic agenda.

The philosopher Kant was convinced there would be something we could not know directly behind our limitations, however, even with our limitations we could know something. Scientists should be aware that tomorrow’s experiments may completely unhinge today’s accepted theories and the religious should try to be more inclusivist, recognising some truth in all belief systems.
socratus
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Can deism have scientific background ?
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Deism is a theological theory concerning the relationship between
a Creator and the natural world.
To have relationship with the natural world the Creator or Creators
need to have concrete physical parameters.
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Can deism have scientific background ?
Can God or Gods have physical and mathematical qualities ?
My answer is ''yes'' .
Why?
Because if we don't know what light is, if we don't know what electron is,
if we don't know what quantum particles are and what vacuum is -
then fundamental physics opening the door to deism.
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a) '' All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken '‘ / Einstein /
b) 'It is important to realize that in physics today, we have
no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture that
energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount. It is not that way.'' 
/  Richard Feynman about an electron /
c)  ” The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
  is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct
description of something more complex? “   / Paul Dirac ./
d) '' Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be
regarded as real.'' / Niels Bohr about quantum particles./
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